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mansuetus - April 19, 2012 - 01:33:12

J'ai trouvé un article scientifique de grande qualité. Junk m'en dira des nouvelles.1

Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ? Student : Yes, sir. Professor: So, you believe in <span class="caps">GOD</span> ? Student : Absolutely, sir. Professor : Is <span class="caps">GOD</span> good ? Student : Sure. Professor: Is <span class="caps">GOD</span> all powerful ? Student : Yes. Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to <span class="caps">GOD</span> to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But <span class="caps">GOD</span> didn’t. How is this <span class="caps">GOD</span> good then? Hmm? (Student was silent.) Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is <span class="caps">GOD</span> good? Student : Yes. Professor: Is satan good ? Student : No. Professor: Where does satan come from ? Student : From … <span class="caps">GOD</span> … Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world? Student : Yes. Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And <span class="caps">GOD</span> did make everything. Correct? Student : Yes. Professor: So who created evil ? (Student did not answer.) Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they? Student : Yes, sir. Professor: So, who created them ? (Student had no answer.) Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen <span class="caps">GOD</span>? Student : No, sir. Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your <span class="caps">GOD</span>? Student : No , sir. Professor: Have you ever felt your <span class="caps">GOD</span>, tasted your <span class="caps">GOD</span>, smelt your <span class="caps">GOD</span>? Have you ever had any sensory perception of <span class="caps">GOD</span> for that matter? Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t. Professor: Yet you still believe in Him? Student : Yes. Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your <span class="caps">GOD</span> doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son? Student : Nothing. I only have my faith. Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has. Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat? Professor: Yes. Student : And is there such a thing as cold? Professor: Yes. Student : No, sir. There isn’t. (The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.) Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it. (There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.) Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness? Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness? Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you? Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ? Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed. Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how? Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good <span class="caps">GOD</span> and a bad <span class="caps">GOD</span>. You are viewing the concept of <span class="caps">GOD</span> as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey? Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do. Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? (The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.) Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class was in uproar.) Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain? (The class broke out into laughter. ) Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.) Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son. Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man &amp; <span class="caps">GOD</span> is <span class="caps">FAITH</span>. That is all that keeps things alive and moving. P.S. I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, you’ll probably want your friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, won’t you? Forward this to increase their knowledge … or <span class="caps">FAITH</span>. By the way, that student was <span class="caps">EINSTEIN</span>.

1 S'il ne me tue pas avant :-)


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mansuetus - April 19, 2012 - 11:36:43

Si tu as craqué au milieu, lis au moins la dernière ligne : c'est Einstein, EINSTEIN. Le PROFESSEUR Einstein, le grand-maître Einstein.

Alors Dieu existe, c'est EINSTEIN qui l'a prouvé.

Nananère.


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Beri - April 19, 2012 - 10:26:21

Le grand mètre, par ce qu'on a récemment découvert qu'il y avait un petit-métre aussi.
Je connais ce genre de discussion, j'ai recu une petite BD anti évolution la dernière fois dans ma boite au lettres, en résumé c'était.

- Comment pouvez vous ne pas croire en dieu si les protons chargés + sont quand même ensemble dans un noyau au lieu de se repousser.

Et au final d'une conversation un peu comme celle-ci, le professeur va voir le doyen et dit qu'il ne peut plus enseigner la biologie blablabla.

Tu as une source que ce soit vraiment Einstein et pas un truc créé de toute pièce par la propagande religieuse ? ^^


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Schtroumpf - April 19, 2012 - 10:34:31

Le grand-mètre Einstein ou la grand-mère d'Einstein ?

Je sais qu'Einstein était croyant, mais je vais me faire l'avocat de l'absence de bonté : il n'a rien prouvé, il a juste démontré que si Dieu ne se prouvait pas, Son (t'as vu j'ai mis une majuscule) absence non plus.



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